[chuck]I have been flooded with requests to re-enable the donate button to allow people to send the site some money. I feel bad about that, I didn’t mean to turn the end of Irreligiosophy into some sort of cash drive. But I also have to say that I’m touched. I honestly had no idea how much this podcast meant to some of you until I got hammered by all the emails and comments over the last two days.

So I’m going to acquiesce and put a donate button back on the site for the time being. But I’m also going to do something for you all. There is one episode of Irreligiosophy left, an interview we did back in February with Dan Barker of the Freedom from Religion Foundation. I don’t think it’s one of our best interviews (which means it may well be one of our worst shows), but hey, it’s done and just needs to be edited. So I’ll break out the audio program one last time.

Seriously, all of you. Thanks.

73 Responses to “I Surrender”

  1. Citizen Wolf says:

    I prayed for another episode and goddamn it’s come about!!

    Praise JESUS

  2. praise jebus

    thanks chuck

  3. ok, you godless heathen the donate button is back, time to put up or shut up!

    praise jebus but thank chuck

  4. taiki - D.Irr says:

    No, thank you.

    But a big fuck you to the Wigglian Way for still existing. Fuck you guys.

  5. Okay Chuck, you have been donated to. Hope it helps with the debt, and thanks for the podcast. I always meant to donate but never got around to it.

    Take care,
    Kevin

  6. Citizen Wolf says:

    @bob, okydoky, I put up.

  7. talkjawking says:

    I think it would’ve been more poetic if the last episode was a dissection on the Book of Revelations, with the mocking of all its silly imagery. Nonetheless, it’s good to see one last gasp before fading into the Outer Darkness.

  8. Please Chuck, just keep doing the podcast. I work a job where I’m secluded in buttfuck nowhere northern Alberta 3/4 of the year and your witty, thoughtfull and often brilliant banter with guests and Potatoe Head Leighton always brought a smile to my face and made my shitty life bearable . I’ve never heard a podcast or many other forms of media that made me think as much or laugh as much. The number of great conversations between me and my roommate that it sparked are invaluable. I understand you probably want to wash your hands of the whole thing out of bitterness right now, so take some time, but !PLEASE! come back to us. Or I fucking swear I’ll join a baptist church and stop dancing (I don’t dance but what a tragedy it would be if i never did!).

  9. Ah fuck, you know what? I dont accept this. I’m in denial. Im gonna stalk you till more episodes are being cranked out for minimal donations and an audience of thankless atheists, Chuck. I’m gonna stalk you like a gay penguin horny for atheist humor and knowledge. I’m gonna burn the interwebs until nothing is left but a collection charred donkey porn and say “Is this what you wanted? I did it for Gawd! Nobody was around to tell me what an non-existent asshole he is!” If you aren’t doing something like Irreligiosophy, whats the point of your vast and fucking hilarious knowledge of biblical minutia? Not to play the guilt trip card or anything. I’m just at the denial stage, and its leading into sad anger.

    I re-read my comment, decided it was too weird and creepy, and so decided it was enough.

    I’ll do the podcast with you Chuck, I can be a brainless dick joke generation machine. Or find someone better, or nobody at all. Just fill my ears and shriveled black imaginary soul with some good ol’ irreligi-awesomness.

    I re-read my comment, decided it was too weird and creepy, and so declared it was enough.

    Fuck You, and I mean that in the most thankful way possible.

  10. and joe declared that it was enough
    praise the lard

    ok, joe stick your head back in your hat and read us more from the golden moose
    patty tablets

  11. Lucy Harris says:

    Dan Barker is the best. You guys must have really sucked hard to screw up that interview.

    This is how I will always remember you.

  12. AngryBudgie says:

    I’ll always have a special place in my heart for the Kent Hovind episodes. At the very bottom of that dark cold place I call my heart…

  13. Holy crap, Chuck said “thanks” without adding “Fuck you”? You KNOW he’s serious!

  14. I will miss one of the most thoroughly entertaining podcasts ever. Thanks.

  15. Always loved this show, sad to see it isn’t going to be back in the near future….but I’ll hold out hope!!

    Anyway, I wonder how long it will be before you’re getting offers of millions to get back together for more shows. Who knows, maybe Lorne Michaels will even offer $3000……

  16. Dan Barker is awesome.

    At least we’re giving you money because we like you, not because you’re threatening some old testament kick-assery on us if we don’t give 15% like some other douchebag.

  17. you know Chuck, I came across your podcast about 6 months ago by accident. I only subscribed to 2 pod cast channels and yours was one of them. I never listened to an episode I didn’t like.

    It really is a tragic thing that it has to end, and I with we could change your mind. It seems like there are a lot of people out there that would pay to see you continue. I would easily pledge $15 or $20 a month to see the pod cast continue.

    I don’t do pod casting so I don’t really understand the costs associated with it…I just really hate to see it end like this…

  18. maybe I should learn how to spell and form sentences before I post…Jeezus! lol

  19. Dave in FL says:

    You guys will be missed. Wish you could manage even a bi-monthly podcast or something. ANYTHING!

  20. Michael Hawkisbig says:

    Although I hate it, I respect your decision to end the podcast. If you weren’t having fun with it then continuing it would be a bad idea. Also re-uniting you with Leighton would be unnatural and wouldn’t be right at the moment. You obviously had some issues, its a shame but what can ya do. Were all really grateful for what we got, so thanks to the both of you. Its a shame some people are just the way they are. Though best wishes to both Chuck and Leighton.

  21. Chuck, have you considered doing some blogging? Nothing big, just once in a while write a short little post. It might let you talk about the things you didn’t get to, but without the stress and production issues

  22. Citizen Wolf says:

    Yeh, like Davros says, maybe do an Irreligiosophy blog and rant about some of the craziness in the world. That way you can keep your foot in the door and maybe, just maybe, somewhere down the line you can get back into the podcasting, starting perhaps with occassional guesting on one of the other atheist/skeptic podcasts. And perhaps the blogging will supply you with material for future casts.

  23. 20 buckazoids sent, it’s all I can afford being jobless and all. I hope some of these other so-called fans donate as well to make up for my pitiful amount.

  24. Thank you. What you have done here has been of help, and entertaining to boot.

  25. I just sent $200. That’s less than $2 per hour, cheaper than a movie, and cheaper than cable TV (at the rate I watch TV anyway). Also much better content, and I didn’t have to pay up front for something that would probably be bad anyway. These guys deserve to get paid for their efforts. It was good work.

    Dammit, now I feel like a cheapskate. I’ll send more next month if the link is still there…

  26. Wow Ron, you’re my hero. We need like some goal board so we know how much we need to raise to cover the haunted house. Maybe Chuck can lock himself in his anti prayer tower until the money gets donated. Won’t you please send your donations? Our operators are standing by. It costs money not to do the lords work, and god won’t pay you back seven fold for your donation.

    I’ve also heard grumblings of some about doing something to Leighton. Please don’t be rash. Find a way to frame the E4 Faith guys before you do anything.

    No seriously, I like Leighton too, he’s had a crazy life and that really brought something to the show as well.

  27. To Rob, and everyone else who has donated or plans to donate, I don’t know what to say except that you have my gratitude. I’ve given a lot of thought to continuing the podcast in some shape or form. I just don’t know.

    I’ve also heard grumblings of some about doing something to Leighton.

    Please don’t. He’s alienated just about everyone who has ever cared about him, including his closest friends and family. I think Leighton’s done enough to himself.

  28. I hope you two can reconcile one day. I know you’re angry, but you’re very well educated and you know it’s not about you, it’s more about things that have happened in his past combined with sleep deprivation and the stress of a filing business. You’ve seen how much your podcast meant to people, maybe some of that love could be passed on.

    I’m sure nobody will do anything to Leighton other than send him a fruit basket. It might be full of phallic shaped fruits, but still..

  29. Besides, everyone knows Leighton is our favorite anyway.

    Also, the guy’s been whipped enough already, and like Kevin said, not to presume anything, but he probably got just as wiped out doing all this, maybe more.

    Or maybe we’re all trying to act like Doctor Phil in fixing this relationship, when we have none of his charisma. Or massive amounts of cars.

  30. Not Actually Leighton Allred says:

    OK, I’ve been reading all of this crap and I wasn’t going to say anything, but I think it’s time that I set the record straight.

    First off I’d like to say that Charlie has made some rather stupid and childish comments about me and I don’t suppose I’ll ever forgive him for any of it. He’s been LYING about the money issues. The fact of the matter it’s HIM who owes ME money. It’s ridiculous that he would even mention money since I’ve singlehandledly been carrying our business for the last six months. I find his accusations about money to be totally outrageous. But wait, there’s more…..

    This whole fight started one night when we were working on the haunted house. Now I admit that I’d had a few beers while we were working and I’m not always on my best behavior when drunk, but this night I was not drunk. I was practically sober. I was however in a playful mood (as I often am) and I began to joke around with Charlie. First I slapped him on the ass like the little girl he is. He was playing along at first and one thing lead to another. Let’s just say that things quickly got out of hand and the playing turned into wrestling. He wound up getting mad at me and grabbed my cock and balls and twisted. Now I was really shocked, because it was all good clean fun up until then. Anyway, this wound up turning into a fist fight. Someone called the cops. I sat in the hooosegow overnight and my former friend pressed charges.

    Now since then it’s been nonstop harrassing phone calls from Charlie. Suddenly I owe HIM money! Which is a laugh! There aren’t any issues with money. I’m doing quite well and as a matter of fact I’m working with one of my brothers on a new business. You all might also be interested to learn that I’m getting married. I mentioned the woman in question on the podcast. We met in Luxembourg and if you recall I always regretted leaving her. Well, now things have come together and I praise God for that.

    And yes, you read that right. I’ve spent the last few months contemplating my positions and I came to the conclusion that it was time to go back to the church. I’m going to preemptify all the wingnuttery I expect to hear from you all by saying Fuck You, it’s my life and I’ve changed my mind about a lot of things. The fact is I never really stopped believing in God. Yes, I know I said a lot of vile things. Yes, I know I said I would never would go back to the church, but sometimes we have moments in our lives where things just change. I’m not going to get into too much more detail other than to say that I’ve accepted Jesus Christ as my personal savior and I believe the message of the Church of Latter Day Saints has great value for all mankind. You listeners might want to reconsidering your positions. You too Charlie, since you seem so stuck in your ways and think you are so smart.

    That’s all that I wanted to say. Oh and a big Fuck You to everyone who has turned against me, you Judases. Especially that guy who called me a Potatoe Head. Fuck you! Who are you? Dan Quayle?

    For those who are loyal, I’ll be starting my own podcast with my own original research and I recommend that all of my four fans check it out when the time comes.

    You’res in Christ,
    Not Actually Leighton Allred
    MormonLeighton@yahoo.com

    PS I think it’s really nice that Charlie is trying to make a payday out of our fight. That doesn’t surprise me at all.

  31. Thanks for making the best pod cast in the world. I started listening after your appearance on the conspiracy skeptic and have been hooked ever since. It is sad it ends this way, but I totally understand and respect your decision.

    I am glad you put up the donate button again, so we can show our appreciation for the last three years.

  32. Herb (12th Apostle) says:

    My wife should’ve made a donation by now, Chuck. (She holds the purse strings in my family.)

    My sense is that you need some time away from the podcast because it still reeks of Leighton, and not due to a lack of passion for the subject matter.

    When you’re ready, we’ll be listening for that still, whiny voice.

  33. Leighton had me going there until he added the one most unbelievable statement. Not that he found Jesus but that he claims to have his “own original research.”

    Enough said,
    Johnny

  34. What…..the…..fuck……?

    “I’m not going to get into too much more detail other than to say that I’ve accepted Jesus Christ as my personal savior”

    Is this some sort of joke? After all you said now Joseph Smith is now a prophet? Was it Ken Hovind’s dissertation that sealed the deal?

    My mouth is still agape. Leighton, I can’t analyze you, I don’t know you well enough, but seriously dude, you’re hurting, having some kind of existential crisis and looking to grasp onto something. (Much like you accuse Chuck of doing.)

    I’m glad you’re with the lady you’ve always wanted to be with.

    Seriously dude, your own podcast? Is it religious? Are you going to provide evidence for you faith as well?

    The world just took a turn for the surreal.

  35. That’s not actually Leighton, just some idiot playing games. I’ll edit the post to reflect his identity.

  36. Herb (12th Apostle) says:

    Leighton, your post completely eroded what little credibility you had left. I doubt many of us will be listening to anything more you have to say. (Unless, of course, Chuck wants to do another podcast takedown.)

  37. Fake Leighton Allred says:

    Apparently Charlie can’t handle the truth! I am the real and actual Leighton Allred. So suck it, bitches!
    Tell them how you kissed me, Charlie! Go on! Tell them what really went down!
    I’m not going to play your games. I’m moving on with my life. Good luck and I hope you find what you are looking for.
    I know my true fans will stand by me. My new podcast will conquer the world!

    Praise God!

  38. wow, the trolling is heavy tonight.

    Stay off the sauce, fake Leighton. If only so I can steal it from you.

  39. Too short to be Leigthon, yet still too long to read.

  40. I think I will have to chip in some cash for Chuck as well. How much is a sense of humor these days?

    Here’s Leightons new site, by the way:
    http://site.leightonallred.com/

  41. Uh… WTF? I’m a little confused. Personally I don’t think I could ever go back to being religious, not after I’ve seen how full of bullshit it all is.

    I donated $5. Always wanted to donate but was always too poor. I figure I’d make a small sacrifice to say thanks for all the hard work and relentless groping you guys have done for atheism and this community.

    That money is earmarked for beer, by the way, so it better be used to buy beer and only beer. Hail Evidence4Faith!

  42. No confusion. The real Leighton would have spelled my name correctly.

  43. The Real Actual Leighton Allred, Not A Troll says:

    No, I wouldn’t have…….Charlie.
    I’m Leighton. When have I ever spelled anything right?
    Prayse Jesus.

  44. wenchygirl says:

    Well Chuck, it’s the least anybody could do for the hours of entertainment is chip in a few bucks. And you didn’t even have to guilt people into it, like PBS does. Maybe they should take some fundraising tips.

  45. Citizen Wolf says:

    Chuck, if you do consider doing some sort of podcast in the future you might be able to ease the workload somewhat if you outsource some of the research, as happens with Skeptoid. I’m on the e-mail list for that and every so often Brian sends out requests for information on various topics. Just a thought.
    ——————- ————————– —————————-
    @fake Leighton – WTF?

  46. Maybe think past podcasts and blogs and consider that with Chuck’s philosophical and scholarly knowledge base to build on, and his communication skills, all that research might be a potential book somewhere down the road. I can see Chuck doing something along the lines of a Breaking the Spell, God Delusion, God is not Great sort of thing. Might have to title it Skunk Dicks and why they suck, or something, but I see potential there..

  47. You know, I believe that may really be Leighton. The phrasing is familiar, the sarcasm, the pointed accusations. It all seems consistent. Chuck, Leighton, for crying out loud, we’ve all had our little “gay” moments now and then. Yeah, they’re a little scary at first. Yeah, it can be awkward. But by the time you get to be my age, it’s no big deal anymore. It’s kid of fun. Just because I like a good ass-fucking once in a while, it doesn’t mean I’m gay or anything. Jeeze! let’s not be stereotypical! Besides, what’s a blowjob between friends? I used to send my girlfriends down the hall to get “warmed up” on one of my roommates before I’d fuck her. Damn, she was good too. I got tired of hearing my roomie go on and on and on about how horny he was and how much he enjoyed her sucking his cock. “Damn it, man” I said “I’ll give you a blow job if you’l just stop talking about it.” He took me up on it too. Funny thing, she was asleep in the next room. I went in and woke her up to fuck her brains out right afterwards. She said it was the best sex she’d ever had, and she loved my new mouthwash. After I explained what happened, she made sure to bring a friend over once in a while. Sometimes it was even another girl. Fun times… Fun times.

    So, you see guys, just drop the pretense and admit that you really do want to fuck each other. It’s ok. We’ve all done it. Really. And we’d like to watch too.

    What does this have to do with Jesus and his daddy? How do you think you get to be your own father? And seriously, who among us hasn’t tried to fuck himself now and then? I guess you have to be some kind of God to make that work out.

    For those of us who aren’t Gods, what are friends for anyway?

    So go ahead, kiss and make up. (But if kissing is too personal, a good hand-job might do the trick.)

  48. I will add that part of the reason i think i came out of my depression was because of your podcast. I mean if it wasn’t for how hilarious you guys are (i literally almost died from the Rudolph one I am not sure what would have happen. Thanks for helping me have some laughs when i was really down.

  49. Oh and i bet the fake leighton is chris hastings

  50. I’m not sure if this’ll get read or not but I really appreciate what you and Leighton have done. many a times I found myself in the middle of church (after being forced to attend) listening to your podcast because truth matters more to me than a comforting lie. I was never a fan of podcasts but there was just something special about Irreligiosophy and I think it’s the chemistry that the two of you brought to the show. In fact, the show is so good, I have some of your greatest saved on my ipod from over a year ago. Rudolph, A half dozen of the mormon ones, even a few interviews like Dave Silverman and Roger Nygard.